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CommentAuthorslapaaazz
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
I played multiple sit n gos today. I've won some and lost some.
A very obvious thing that has happened over 5 times today is that if you are the short stack, and you go all-in, you WILL lose, most likley on the river. It does not matter how few outs the other person has, you will lose.
My hypothesis is that the software nearly gaurantees that the short stack will lose 99% of the time in order to speed up the sit n gos so that Full Tilt makes more money on reg fees. It is similar to a restaurant turning tables. If people are sitting at the tables, you cant make any more money so youd better get them outta there.
I played numerous site sit n gos and have never experienced a thing like this.
It is either and really really really really lreally long period of absurd bad luck, or the site is rigged. Play sit n gos and form your own opinion.
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CommentAuthorHuJwang
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
i just played a sit n go which i think in itself completely disproves the short stack theory
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430643684: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 400/800 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:14:41 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (10,750)
Seat 8: HuJwang (2,750)
specedout03 posts the small blind of 400
HuJwang posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [Ad 4h]
specedout03 raises to 10,750, and is all in
HuJwang calls 1,950, and is all in
specedout03 shows [7d 3s]
HuJwang shows [Ad 4h]
Uncalled bet of 8,000 returned to specedout03
*** FLOP *** [Qc 5c 3h]
*** TURN *** [Qc 5c 3h] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [Qc 5c 3h 6d] [Ac]
specedout03 shows a pair of Threes
HuJwang shows a pair of Aces
HuJwang wins the pot (5,500) with a pair of Aces
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5,500 | Rake 0
Board: [Qc 5c 3h 6d Ac]
Seat 4: specedout03 (small blind) showed [7d 3s] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 8: HuJwang (big blind) showed [Ad 4h] and won (5,500) with a pair of Aces
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430644302: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 400/800 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:15:03 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (8,000)
Seat 8: HuJwang (5,500)
HuJwang posts the small blind of 400
specedout03 posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [Qh 3h]
HuJwang calls 400
specedout03 checks
*** FLOP *** [Ks 8d 8h]
specedout03 bets 800
HuJwang folds
Uncalled bet of 800 returned to specedout03
specedout03 mucks
specedout03 wins the pot (1,600)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,600 | Rake 0
Board: [Ks 8d 8h]
Seat 4: specedout03 (big blind) collected (1,600), mucked
Seat 8: HuJwang (small blind) folded on the Flop
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430644863: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 400/800 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:15:24 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (8,800)
Seat 8: HuJwang (4,700)
specedout03 posts the small blind of 400
HuJwang posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [8h 3s]
specedout03 calls 400
HuJwang checks
*** FLOP *** [Qs Td 6c]
HuJwang checks
specedout03 bets 800
HuJwang folds
Uncalled bet of 800 returned to specedout03
specedout03 mucks
specedout03 wins the pot (1,600)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,600 | Rake 0
Board: [Qs Td 6c]
Seat 4: specedout03 (small blind) collected (1,600), mucked
Seat 8: HuJwang (big blind) folded on the Flop
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430645789: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 400/800 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:15:56 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (9,600)
Seat 8: HuJwang (3,900)
HuJwang posts the small blind of 400
specedout03 posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [Qd 3d]
HuJwang raises to 3,900, and is all in
specedout03 folds
Uncalled bet of 3,100 returned to HuJwang
HuJwang mucks
HuJwang wins the pot (1,600)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,600 | Rake 0
Seat 4: specedout03 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: HuJwang (small blind) collected (1,600), mucked
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430646233: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 400/800 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:16:12 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (8,800)
Seat 8: HuJwang (4,700)
specedout03 posts the small blind of 400
HuJwang posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [Qd 6h]
specedout03 folds
Uncalled bet of 400 returned to HuJwang
HuJwang mucks
HuJwang wins the pot (800)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 800 | Rake 0
Seat 4: specedout03 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: HuJwang (big blind) collected (800), mucked
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430646460: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 400/800 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:16:21 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (8,400)
Seat 8: HuJwang (5,100)
HuJwang posts the small blind of 400
specedout03 posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [9h 2d]
HuJwang folds
Uncalled bet of 400 returned to specedout03
specedout03 mucks
specedout03 wins the pot (800)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 800 | Rake 0
Seat 4: specedout03 (big blind) collected (800), mucked
Seat 8: HuJwang (small blind) folded before the Flop
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430646734: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 400/800 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:16:31 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (8,800)
Seat 8: HuJwang (4,700)
specedout03 posts the small blind of 400
HuJwang posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [8c 6c]
specedout03 folds
Uncalled bet of 400 returned to HuJwang
HuJwang mucks
HuJwang wins the pot (800)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 800 | Rake 0
Seat 4: specedout03 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: HuJwang (big blind) collected (800), mucked
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430646991: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 400/800 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:16:41 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (8,400)
Seat 8: HuJwang (5,100)
HuJwang posts the small blind of 400
specedout03 posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [9s Ah]
HuJwang raises to 5,100, and is all in
specedout03 folds
Uncalled bet of 4,300 returned to HuJwang
HuJwang mucks
HuJwang wins the pot (1,600)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,600 | Rake 0
Seat 4: specedout03 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: HuJwang (small blind) collected (1,600), mucked
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430647357: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 400/800 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:16:53 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (7,600)
Seat 8: HuJwang (5,900)
specedout03 posts the small blind of 400
HuJwang posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [2d Qd]
specedout03 raises to 1,600
HuJwang calls 800
*** FLOP *** [9c 8c 4c]
HuJwang checks
specedout03 bets 1,600
HuJwang folds
Uncalled bet of 1,600 returned to specedout03
specedout03 mucks
specedout03 wins the pot (3,200)
The blinds are now 500/1,000
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,200 | Rake 0
Board: [9c 8c 4c]
Seat 4: specedout03 (small blind) collected (3,200), mucked
Seat 8: HuJwang (big blind) folded on the Flop
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430647939: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 500/1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:17:14 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (9,200)
Seat 8: HuJwang (4,300)
HuJwang posts the small blind of 500
specedout03 posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [Jd Ad]
HuJwang raises to 4,300, and is all in
specedout03 folds
Uncalled bet of 3,300 returned to HuJwang
HuJwang mucks
HuJwang wins the pot (2,000)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,000 | Rake 0
Seat 4: specedout03 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: HuJwang (small blind) collected (2,000), mucked
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430648288: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 500/1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:17:27 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (8,200)
Seat 8: HuJwang (5,300)
specedout03 posts the small blind of 500
HuJwang posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [Jc As]
specedout03 calls 500
HuJwang raises to 5,300, and is all in
specedout03 folds
Uncalled bet of 4,300 returned to HuJwang
HuJwang mucks
HuJwang wins the pot (2,000)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,000 | Rake 0
Seat 4: specedout03 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: HuJwang (big blind) collected (2,000), mucked
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430648750: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 500/1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:17:44 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (7,200)
Seat 8: HuJwang (6,300)
HuJwang posts the small blind of 500
specedout03 posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [Jc 5h]
HuJwang folds
Uncalled bet of 500 returned to specedout03
specedout03 mucks
specedout03 wins the pot (1,000)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,000 | Rake 0
Seat 4: specedout03 (big blind) collected (1,000), mucked
Seat 8: HuJwang (small blind) folded before the Flop
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430648995: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 500/1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:17:53 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (7,700)
Seat 8: HuJwang (5,800)
specedout03 posts the small blind of 500
HuJwang posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [2h Ac]
specedout03 calls 500
HuJwang checks
*** FLOP *** [6h Jh 4h]
HuJwang bets 1,000
specedout03 raises to 2,000
HuJwang folds
Uncalled bet of 1,000 returned to specedout03
specedout03 mucks
specedout03 wins the pot (4,000)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,000 | Rake 0
Board: [6h Jh 4h]
Seat 4: specedout03 (small blind) collected (4,000), mucked
Seat 8: HuJwang (big blind) folded on the Flop
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430649740: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 500/1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:18:21 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (9,700)
Seat 8: HuJwang (3,800)
HuJwang posts the small blind of 500
specedout03 posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [Kc Js]
HuJwang raises to 3,800, and is all in
specedout03 folds
Uncalled bet of 2,800 returned to HuJwang
HuJwang mucks
HuJwang wins the pot (2,000)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,000 | Rake 0
Seat 4: specedout03 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: HuJwang (small blind) collected (2,000), mucked
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430650010: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 500/1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:18:31 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (8,700)
Seat 8: HuJwang (4,800)
specedout03 posts the small blind of 500
HuJwang posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [Js 5h]
specedout03 raises to 8,700, and is all in
HuJwang folds
Uncalled bet of 7,700 returned to specedout03
specedout03 mucks
specedout03 wins the pot (2,000)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,000 | Rake 0
Seat 4: specedout03 (small blind) collected (2,000), mucked
Seat 8: HuJwang (big blind) folded before the Flop
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430650303: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 500/1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:18:41 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (9,700)
Seat 8: HuJwang (3,800)
HuJwang posts the small blind of 500
specedout03 posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [9c 9h]
HuJwang raises to 3,800, and is all in
specedout03 folds
Uncalled bet of 2,800 returned to HuJwang
HuJwang mucks
HuJwang wins the pot (2,000)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,000 | Rake 0
Seat 4: specedout03 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: HuJwang (small blind) collected (2,000), mucked
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430650547: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 500/1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:18:50 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (8,700)
Seat 8: HuJwang (4,800)
specedout03 posts the small blind of 500
HuJwang posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [Ts 7s]
specedout03 calls 500
HuJwang checks
*** FLOP *** [6c 5c Kh]
HuJwang checks
specedout03 bets 1,000
HuJwang raises to 3,800, and is all in
specedout03 calls 2,800
HuJwang shows [Ts 7s]
specedout03 shows [Ac 5d]
*** TURN *** [6c 5c Kh] [4h]
*** RIVER *** [6c 5c Kh 4h] [3h]
HuJwang shows a straight, Seven high
specedout03 shows a pair of Fives
HuJwang wins the pot (9,600) with a straight, Seven high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9,600 | Rake 0
Board: [6c 5c Kh 4h 3h]
Seat 4: specedout03 (small blind) showed [Ac 5d] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 8: HuJwang (big blind) showed [Ts 7s] and won (9,600) with a straight, Seven high
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430651487: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 500/1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:19:24 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (3,900)
Seat 8: HuJwang (9,600)
HuJwang posts the small blind of 500
specedout03 posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [4s Ah]
HuJwang: wow
HuJwang raises to 9,600, and is all in
specedout03 calls 2,900, and is all in
HuJwang shows [4s Ah]
specedout03 shows [3h Ad]
Uncalled bet of 5,700 returned to HuJwang
*** FLOP *** [5d Js 5c]
*** TURN *** [5d Js 5c] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [5d Js 5c 8h] [6h]
HuJwang shows a pair of Fives
specedout03 shows a pair of Fives
specedout03 ties for the pot (3,900) with a pair of Fives
HuJwang ties for the pot (3,900) with a pair of Fives
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7,800 | Rake 0
Board: [5d Js 5c 8h 6h]
Seat 4: specedout03 (big blind) showed [3h Ad] and won (3,900) with a pair of Fives
Seat 8: HuJwang (small blind) showed [4s Ah] and won (3,900) with a pair of Fives
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430652211: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 500/1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:19:50 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (3,900)
Seat 8: HuJwang (9,600)
specedout03 posts the small blind of 500
HuJwang posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [8d 7d]
specedout03 raises to 3,900, and is all in
HuJwang folds
Uncalled bet of 2,900 returned to specedout03
specedout03 mucks
specedout03 wins the pot (2,000)
The blinds are now 600/1,200
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,000 | Rake 0
Seat 4: specedout03 (small blind) collected (2,000), mucked
Seat 8: HuJwang (big blind) folded before the Flop
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430652494: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 600/1200 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:20:01 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (4,900)
Seat 8: HuJwang (8,600)
HuJwang posts the small blind of 600
specedout03 posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [2c 5c]
HuJwang folds
Uncalled bet of 600 returned to specedout03
specedout03 mucks
specedout03 wins the pot (1,200)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,200 | Rake 0
Seat 4: specedout03 (big blind) collected (1,200), mucked
Seat 8: HuJwang (small blind) folded before the Flop
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430652771: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 600/1200 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:20:11 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (5,500)
Seat 8: HuJwang (8,000)
specedout03 posts the small blind of 600
HuJwang posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [2d Ts]
specedout03 calls 600
HuJwang checks
*** FLOP *** [9c Qs Jd]
HuJwang bets 6,800, and is all in
specedout03 folds
Uncalled bet of 6,800 returned to HuJwang
HuJwang mucks
HuJwang wins the pot (2,400)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,400 | Rake 0
Board: [9c Qs Jd]
Seat 4: specedout03 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: HuJwang (big blind) collected (2,400), mucked
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430653338: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 600/1200 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:20:31 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (4,300)
Seat 8: HuJwang (9,200)
HuJwang posts the small blind of 600
specedout03 posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [8c 4c]
HuJwang raises to 9,200, and is all in
specedout03 calls 3,100, and is all in
HuJwang shows [8c 4c]
specedout03 shows [9h Kh]
Uncalled bet of 4,900 returned to HuJwang
*** FLOP *** [2d Ts 6d]
*** TURN *** [2d Ts 6d] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [2d Ts 6d Kd] [2s]
HuJwang shows a pair of Twos
specedout03 shows two pair, Kings and Twos
specedout03 wins the pot (8,600) with two pair, Kings and Twos
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8,600 | Rake 0
Board: [2d Ts 6d Kd 2s]
Seat 4: specedout03 (big blind) showed [9h Kh] and won (8,600) with two pair, Kings and Twos
Seat 8: HuJwang (small blind) showed [8c 4c] and lost with a pair of Twos
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430653956: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 600/1200 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:20:54 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (8,600)
Seat 8: HuJwang (4,900)
specedout03 posts the small blind of 600
HuJwang posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [9c 9h]
HuJwang: nh
specedout03 raises to 2,400
HuJwang raises to 4,900, and is all in
specedout03 calls 2,500
HuJwang shows [9c 9h]
specedout03 shows [Qh 9s]
*** FLOP *** [4c 2h Jc]
*** TURN *** [4c 2h Jc] [5c]
*** RIVER *** [4c 2h Jc 5c] [5h]
HuJwang shows two pair, Nines and Fives
specedout03 shows a pair of Fives
HuJwang wins the pot (9,800) with two pair, Nines and Fives
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9,800 | Rake 0
Board: [4c 2h Jc 5c 5h]
Seat 4: specedout03 (small blind) showed [Qh 9s] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 8: HuJwang (big blind) showed [9c 9h] and won (9,800) with two pair, Nines and Fives
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430654652: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 600/1200 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:21:17 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (3,700)
Seat 8: HuJwang (9,800)
HuJwang posts the small blind of 600
specedout03 posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [7s 3h]
HuJwang folds
Uncalled bet of 600 returned to specedout03
specedout03 mucks
specedout03 wins the pot (1,200)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,200 | Rake 0
Seat 4: specedout03 (big blind) collected (1,200), mucked
Seat 8: HuJwang (small blind) folded before the Flop
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430654870: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 600/1200 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:21:25 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (4,300)
Seat 8: HuJwang (9,200)
specedout03 posts the small blind of 600
HuJwang posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [Qd Kh]
specedout03 raises to 4,300, and is all in
HuJwang calls 3,100
specedout03 shows [2c Tc]
HuJwang shows [Qd Kh]
*** FLOP *** [Ad 7d 2d]
*** TURN *** [Ad 7d 2d] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [Ad 7d 2d 7h] [Th]
specedout03 shows two pair, Tens and Sevens
HuJwang shows a pair of Sevens
specedout03 wins the pot (8,600) with two pair, Tens and Sevens
HuJwang: lol
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8,600 | Rake 0
Board: [Ad 7d 2d 7h Th]
Seat 4: specedout03 (small blind) showed [2c Tc] and won (8,600) with two pair, Tens and Sevens
Seat 8: HuJwang (big blind) showed [Qd Kh] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430655378: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 600/1200 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:21:46 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (8,600)
Seat 8: HuJwang (4,900)
HuJwang posts the small blind of 600
specedout03 posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [5h Kd]
HuJwang raises to 4,900, and is all in
specedout03 folds
Uncalled bet of 3,700 returned to HuJwang
HuJwang mucks
HuJwang wins the pot (2,400)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,400 | Rake 0
Seat 4: specedout03 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: HuJwang (small blind) collected (2,400), mucked
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430655676: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 600/1200 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:21:57 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (7,400)
Seat 8: HuJwang (6,100)
specedout03 posts the small blind of 600
HuJwang posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [4c Qc]
specedout03 folds
Uncalled bet of 600 returned to HuJwang
HuJwang mucks
HuJwang wins the pot (1,200)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,200 | Rake 0
Seat 4: specedout03 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: HuJwang (big blind) collected (1,200), mucked
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430655955: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 600/1200 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:22:06 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (6,800)
Seat 8: HuJwang (6,700)
HuJwang posts the small blind of 600
specedout03 posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [Th Ts]
HuJwang raises to 6,700, and is all in
specedout03 folds
Uncalled bet of 5,500 returned to HuJwang
HuJwang mucks
HuJwang wins the pot (2,400)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,400 | Rake 0
Seat 4: specedout03 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: HuJwang (small blind) collected (2,400), mucked
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430656387: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 600/1200 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:22:21 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (5,600)
Seat 8: HuJwang (7,900)
specedout03 posts the small blind of 600
HuJwang posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [Ks 6h]
specedout03 folds
Uncalled bet of 600 returned to HuJwang
HuJwang mucks
HuJwang wins the pot (1,200)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,200 | Rake 0
Seat 4: specedout03 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: HuJwang (big blind) collected (1,200), mucked
Full Tilt Poker Game #1430656625: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (10195254), Table 1 - 600/1200 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:22:30 ET - 2006/12/18
Seat 4: specedout03 (5,000)
Seat 8: HuJwang (8,500)
HuJwang posts the small blind of 600
specedout03 posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HuJwang [Kc Th]
HuJwang raises to 8,500, and is all in
specedout03 calls 3,800, and is all in
HuJwang shows [Kc Th]
specedout03 shows [3d 4d]
Uncalled bet of 3,500 returned to HuJwang
*** FLOP *** [5c 9s 9h]
*** TURN *** [5c 9s 9h] [3c]
*** RIVER *** [5c 9s 9h 3c] [Kh]
HuJwang shows two pair, Kings and Nines
specedout03 shows two pair, Nines and Threes
HuJwang wins the pot (10,000) with two pair, Kings and Nines
HuJwang: gg
specedout03 stands up
HuJwang stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10,000 | Rake 0
Board: [5c 9s 9h 3c Kh]
Seat 4: specedout03 (big blind) showed [3d 4d] and lost with two pair, Nines and Threes
Seat 8: HuJwang (small blind) showed [Kc Th] and won (10,000) with two pair, Kings and Nines
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CommentAuthorits so rigged
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
I have to agree about the sit and gos and the whole site.
How can i fold the nut flush when he goes all in on the turn?
If this convinces one person, its worth posting!
2 outters always means coin flip on this rigged site!
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CommentAuthorits so rigged
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
I have to agree about the sit and gos and the whole site.
How can i fold the nut flush when he goes all in on the turn?
If this convinces one person, its worth posting!
2 outters always means coin flip on this rigged site!
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CommentAuthorKloaked Spirit
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
It's horribly rigged. I win quite often here, and that shouldn't be the case. I'm a mega-donk. I have no poker skills what so ever. Yet I keep profiting from playing at the sng's and cash games here. So with this I advice all people that are losing and believe it's rigged to start doing what I do.
1) Get in with the worst of it. Seriously. All the donkies do it and they profit, so why shouldn't you? Screw the system. If OMGMONEYBAGSXXX can hit a full boat with 72o from after calling a raise and re-raise, he knew something. This is what he knew.
2) Play games way above your level. Hopefully play against pros in red. I mean, donkies are the ones getting paid. How can you say you're better than Allen Cunningham or Phil Ivey? You can't, and FTP knows this. Now you're automatically a donk and will receive major suckout advantages. After all, they get paid just to sit down and look pretty. The money isn't theirs to lose, and when you beat them, you can brag about it. Just don't go back to the tables you can beat or you'll lose that money quickly.
3) Play games you have no idea how to play. Once again, this makes you appear to be an idiot, but really you're just a genius that can screw the system. FTP will notice that you haven't played a game of 7 card stud and realize you have to be a fish there. So once again you get all the advantages!
Once you feel that FTP is catching on to you, close your account and make a new one a month later. Before they try to close that new account, deposit and donk it up! You'll be millionaires in no time! When you are, I hope you think of me and this guide.
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CommentAuthorthaevilgenius55
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
i have won tha last 6 out of 8 sit and go's,I guess its rigged 4 me 2 win thx ftp!!!!! stay away from thaevilgenius55 im tellin you!!!!Im on FIRE
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CommentAuthorlive4freerolls
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
LOL ROTFL please explain to me how a 72 beat a royal flush.
LMAO
EDIT: Im such a dumass didnt see the sarcasm till now !!! sorry
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CommentAuthorFlying_Kiwi
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
Has anyone noticed that sometimes you win against the odds and sometimes the odds hold up (roughly proportional to the odds)? No, only me? Oh dang, can someone sell me a tinfoil hat? I haven't been wearing mine.
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CommentAuthortufor
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
I just don't get it.
I see people complaining during games about sites being rigged (every site I've evr played on there are people complaining) and the next time you see them they are still complaining.
If you thought it was rigged why would you still be playing there?
It is easy to see why people with such faulty logic circuits would lose a lot...
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CommentAuthorHIGH HAND TB
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
SNGs are rigged and so is that dang play money its rigged its all rigged dang it
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CommentAuthorjohnfallon
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
Full Tilt must be rigged. certainly the times i've won or finished in the money had nothing to do with my skill or hand selection.
it's all just luck and the mercy of which player the server has decided will win today.
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CommentAuthorsockerkid008
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
Sorry to say this but I have been in shortstack situations before and managed to come back. I really dont think the software is rigged. As I cash in a good amount of my tourneys
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CommentAuthorgogzy
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
the tinfoil hat is worn by rigged theorist to ward off bad beats
works like a charm i gots mine
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CommentAuthordrtre1987
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
in my opinion, i think that short stacks are rigged to win. it seems like whenever im about to make the $, all the short stacks double up 8 times in a row. this one time 4 short stacks moved in w/ 72offsuit and beat three opponents who had pocket aces and royal flushes. i think that it is the corporation people at full tilt trying to piss me off to make every time i play. it is soooo rigged.
here is my other theory. i think that they rig full tilt so that people will make posts about how rigged it is on the forum. that way, there will be more internet pages in the forum where they can sell advertisements. that must be it!
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CommentAuthorlesdoodis
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
So you have never had a 1-outer live? I have had 1-outers at least a dozen times live and can guarantee that they happen. Am I happy about it, NO, but you live and let live. If you get angry everytime some outdraws you, FIND ANOTHER GAME!!! I heard the Monopoly has no bad beats and Clue is quite a game as well. Give me a break, they happen everywhere, all the time, to everyone. So, in the immortal words of our PR friends....STFU!
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CommentAuthorardiroth
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
Zoltan!
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CommentAuthorgodfather199
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
It's only RIGGED when U get Beat
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CommentAuthorJazzOne
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
Yup, you convinced me! Long shots sometimes hit! OMFG! It can't be....... gasp ..... poker?
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CommentAuthorlobe187
- CommentTimeOct 29th 2006
theres no way to build on ft, its just too good at stickin cack in peoples butts. and both of you should lose more money on this site cus u aint winning, and if u are ur playing bad, cus thats the kinda player ft likes.
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CommentAuthorsilly_raver21
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2006
I would have to dissagree with you, I have only had 1$ left once and i lasted 35 rounds, and ended up finishing 2nd (there we're 4 people left when i lost all my money. And no i didnt fold everytime, i went all in and quadripled my money, until it was back up. But I am talking about play cash games, if you're talking about real money games, then i dont know.
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CommentAuthordrtre1987
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2006
yeah, i tried to make the sarcasm as obvious as possible.
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CommentAuthorGrindThis23
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2006
99% is quite a high number, u must have calculated it, but anyways why would fulltilt jeopardize them making money??? Just to rig it and cost you money... i dont think so...
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CommentAuthorlive4freerolls
- CommentTimeOct 30th 2006
I love reading posts about poker being rigged its like watching crippled elementary kids fight.
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CommentAuthorjwalk27
- CommentTimeOct 31st 2006
So its just a bad run of cards. I wish someone would shut my doomswitch off...
Thanks for the input.
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CommentAuthorpwb
- CommentTimeOct 31st 2006
Yep. Full tilt is rigged. That's why they added the pirate avatar, so the rigging would look like it was supposed to be there. If you look waaaaaaaay up, you'll even see a crow's nest.
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CommentAuthorjimmyvengeance
- CommentTimeOct 31st 2006
A real short, serious answer:
Quite a few people share the same paranoia as the original poster. They use tracking software and retain information on every single hand they play (some non-tinfoil hatters do this, too). If there were anything corrupting the fairness of the game, their long-term results would demonstrate this. Definitively. If there were real cheating, we would know it.
(And FullTilt knows that we'd know it, and they know we would take our money elsewhere.)
So I'm willing to gamble that it's fair.
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CommentAuthorIABoomer
- CommentTimeOct 31st 2006
As a recent Ongame refugee, I assure you, the same thing happens there, as it does everywhere else. If you really honestly think the game isn't on the up and up, cash out and play live where nobody ever cheats
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CommentAuthor01baz
- CommentTimeOct 31st 2006
lol junk y were u on his side with the comment against me?
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CommentAuthorsloshedzeus
- CommentTimeOct 31st 2006
It is easier to claim that a site is rigged, even make yourself believe it, then it is to admit to yourself that you may have played poorly.
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CommentAuthorJava_Bowser
- CommentTimeNov 1st 2006
I have often wondered about Full Tilt and in the past Poker Stars. I feel that I understand probabilities pretty well, it just seems to me that too, too often the lesser odds to win wins. I am not talking close hands. I am talking QQ versus 78 suited. I felt like they just want every hand to be dramatic, or a bad beat. I didn't realize we were being televised. The odds are the odds for a reason. The better hand should win a majority of the time.
I never thought about things from your perspective, though. I appreciate it and will watch out for it.
P.S. I am not a newbie, either, and the lesser hand wins WAY too often. It seems to be when a putz calls a big bet he shouldn't.
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CommentAuthorpokeropie
- CommentTimeNov 1st 2006
just right click your mouse button 13 times for a 12 times for k ect it works every time
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CommentAuthor01baz
- CommentTimeNov 1st 2006
hmmmm on pacific poker i wld say its the complete opposite... i think there may be a doomswitch against all my opponents, there was 1 poin in july i was cashin out $600 a day for a week. then the next month i got 2 big 4 my boots and fukd everytin up on pokerstars ive never once cashed out on pokerstars but i want the fpps dammit
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CommentAuthorWeDK
- CommentTimeNov 7th 2006
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CommentAuthorjwalk27
- CommentTimeNov 7th 2006
I just proved your theory wrong by not losing as the shortstack all-in.
Back to the drawing board, I guess...
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CommentAuthorI HATE CAPS
- CommentTimeNov 7th 2006
pfunk when are you due for your first armpit hair?
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CommentAuthorjunkbutton
- CommentTimeNov 8th 2006
Wow, funk.,.. I was actually on your side with the comment about baz... but this is just stupid.
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CommentAuthorddsbac
- CommentTimeNov 8th 2006
I just wanted 2 ask a Q....Does any1 other than me seem 2 notice that whenever the shorstack goes allin in a sng they always seem 2 hit their hand??
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CommentAuthorrmharris
- CommentTimeNov 8th 2006
wait.. so u guys are telling me the Full Tilt is NOT rigged...? wow. so u mean im actually playing good poker? i thought i was relying on a rigged game to give me money
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CommentAuthorjunkbutton
- CommentTimeNov 8th 2006
Because his comment implied that you were a kid... And that's how you sound by the way you type... Just an opinion... Everyone's got one... I mean no offense...
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CommentAuthor01baz
- CommentTimeNov 9th 2006
sorry if im a lil sarcastic, but every few days we have another newbie who makes 1 or 2 posts claiming how full tilt is rigged, doesnt that annoy u?Last edited by 01baz on Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:14 pm; edited 1 time in total
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CommentAuthorjunkbutton
- CommentTimeNov 9th 2006
Absolutely not.... Must be Canadian...
What a crazy concept... He's been playing SnG's all day, and at least FIVE times today the short stack lost when he was all in! Where's my hat? This site is so rigged, it needs it's own driver...
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CommentAuthoracesfullokings9
- CommentTimeNov 10th 2006
I'm pretty sure it's not even a gamble.
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CommentAuthorprolifik0119
- CommentTimeDec 17th 2006
I don't know where to start. Oh yea, nice first post...
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CommentAuthorrmharris
- CommentTimeDec 17th 2006
ok good... just making sure
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CommentAuthorbillygoatg
- CommentTimeDec 18th 2006
I was playin a 30 buk game the other day and was chip leader..i had 1010...middle stack raises allin and i call..
flop was 4109....tutn blank....river....yes a 9....1 outer..
its happens....i hav hit a 1 outer in a live game myself..yes if it happned every day to me i might join the theorists..not yet though...i still went on to win the game
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CommentAuthorpfunknasty
- CommentTimeDec 18th 2006
When is your face due for a face hair?
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CommentAuthorprolifik0119
- CommentTimeDec 18th 2006
It does get a little old.
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CommentAuthorSFBuc
- CommentTimeDec 18th 2006
I don't think so. It may just seem like that if you are the short stack that you will lose all the time. I played a few today but everyone of them I was shortstacked and came back to win. The last one I played I was being beaten 12990 to 510 HU and still came back to beat the guy to take first. So it isn't always like that. Small stacks do win if u know how to play them.
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CommentAuthore_ratledge
- CommentTimeDec 18th 2006
..Last edited by e_ratledge on Sun May 20, 2007 7:20 pm; edited 1 time in total
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CommentAuthorJazzOne
- CommentTimeDec 19th 2006
Oh, no no no. Didnt' you hear? They use action flops to juice the rake in the cash games. It's a completely different algorithm. Plus you have to factor in the doom switch. It's a dangerous game, that online poker. Good thing Uncle Sam is cracking down.
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