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CommentAuthorrenoDoyle
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2007
I was on my way to the Rio in Las Vegas to audition when a fellow dealer informed me that the auditions had been closed two weeks early. Never mind Harrahs advertised a begining and end date for auditions. Apparently they filled the "quota" early and just closed down. Advertising laws aside this astounded me for one simple reason.
A few days earlier while talking with several dealers who had auditioned they were joking about how poor the quality of dealer was being accepted. Among those accepted some didn't even know how to play poker let alone run a game. This is true. I happen to know 2 of the "dealers" hired for this years event and they have never dealt a professional game and in my estimation could never pass a respectable casino audition.
When I contacted Harrahs Entertainment they apologized for closing the audition early but refused to "make and exception" by allowing me to audition within the advertised schedule.
If you play the WSOP and have a bad experience with the dealer (as many did last year) the remedy is simple. Ask the tournament director to consider auditioning all the dealers not just the warm bodies that show up first.
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CommentAuthorTarvin
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2007
3x the previous bet plus everything else in the pot is how I usually do it. But I'm always slightly annoyed when crappy players think they know pot limit but actually don't.
"Pot! 30."
"Sir, the pot's act 75."
"But there's only 30 in the middle!"
"That's true, but he bet 15. So your bet is 75."
"But I only wanted to be 30."
"And yet you declared pot, so the pot bet stands. Put 75 in the middle."
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CommentAuthorlckybstrd
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2007
hello i just played a game and lost with a full boat and the other one won with trips and i think that is bs.. this wasnt the first time either but this game was Dealer: Hand #3373985104
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CommentAuthorCVOG1966
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2007
Welcome to the forums reno. I totally have to agree with you on this subject. I don't understand what Harrah's is thinking, why they would stop taking auditions two weeks early. A poker dealer in this situation (the WSOP) needs to have some experience and knowledge of the game of poker, especially when potentially millions of dollars is changing hands in the most important poker tournaments of the year.
Then again knowing the way Harrah's runs things Benny Binion must be rolling in his grave if he were alive today and seen what Harrah's has done to the WSOP.
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CommentAuthorrenoDoyle
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2007
Your math is correct and your ancedotal portrayl packed with irony, but what do you have to contribute to the actual "subject"? If you are a contestant in the coming WSOP you should be highly concerned that incompetent dealers may have an adverse effect on the outcome of the events. Due to the deliberate recruitment of (unskilled) dealers over those who are perhaps better skilled the definition of "bad beat" may be altered substantially and forever.
If you object to the hiring practices of the WSOP & Harrah's Entertainment you should submit your concerns to them directly at:
If anyone would like to contribute to a working press release they can contact me directly at:
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CommentAuthorFlying_Kiwi
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2007
That's actually a little more tricky (not to mention important) than some might think. It requires at leas the most basic level of mathematics education.
Just on a funny little side note:
I heard that one of the bars in my town started up a weekly poker game, the girl who ran the bar was also appointed Floor Manager (with little to no kncowledge of NLHE).
At one point there was a straight on the table (which was the best hand at showdown). An argument breaks out, they call the 'floor' who says... "The ace wins with the kicker."
Needless to say, noone came back the next week and the game was over.
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CommentAuthorrenoDoyle
- CommentTimeAug 26th 2007
A dealer who did audition tells me that applicants who were unable to even shuffle or had no knowledge of the game were simply inserted in the "C" category (i.e. A,B & C) and scheduled for orientation with the game. If you have never dealt professionally even a candidate possessing above average eye hand coordination will require at least 4 months of dedicated practice to develop the skill set requisite to competently deal and avoid being beaten to death for misdeals.
A dealer who is incapable of moving the game along as blinds increase will incur the resentment of short stacks and the table in general. So what would be the motive for Harrahs to deliberately avoid seeking the best talent available?
At last years event the WSOP in it's infinite wisdom manipulated the dealer pay to the extent that a walk out was threatened (many did). It would be reasonable to assume that employing a fair number of neophite dealers who are perhaps less jaded than their more experienced counterparts may be an effective prenentitive measure. In other words what they (dealers) don't understand they won't object to. Meanwhile players are at the effect of a deliberately incompetent system.
See you at the tables. (I'm the dealer who actually knows how to calculate a PLO max. raise)
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