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General Questions: Best flop with Pocket Aces

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      CommentAuthorMJW0327
    • CommentTimeJan 19th 2008
     

    Consider this scenerio: You have wired aces and make a nice big raise and you get multiple callers. Now you're kind of in trouble. I was trying to figure out what would be the best possible flop in this situation. For most people, the reaction would be AAX, duh! But think again. What kind of action are you going to get with that flop. You were the original raiser, so nobodies sticking around to see if you got the goods unless X matches their pocket pair. So, although you'd have a nice pot anyway if this were the flop, I still think there is a better flop.

    This flop, in my opinion would be A T 6 rainbow. This is the highest of 2 flops where all of these scenerios are true: 1)You flopped the nuts 2)Nobody can have an open ended straight draw 3)nobody can have a flush draw (except runner runner obviously). Also, you're bound to genarate action from the guy who called with AT or A6s, or A anything and still be very safe from a miracle. Also, you have a possibility that 66 or TT got there for somebody.

    Anyway, this is a pretty lame post, but what do you think is the best possible flop with AA in your hand?

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    if we are ruling out AAx then AKK is next. made full house and anyone with a king is going all the way with you.

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    Ugh!!! In the situation the OP described one of the callers will have KK! Hell no would you want to see that flop!!!!!! How many times you see AAvsKK? One K, is OK, two it gets scary for the AA.

    AK3 rainbow, (instead of the 3 any other card that hits one of the other players pair to give em a set).

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      CommentAuthorMJW0327
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2008
     

    That's true, but I was trying to come up with a way you flop the nuts, still get action and are very safe from getting drawn out. You basically flop the nuts with AKK, but I still believe you're most likely to get action with AT6 rainbow. You're probably right, though.

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      CommentAuthorRadeh
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2008
     

    I liked this one

    The flush draw gave the other 2 a good reason to call...

    , $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players

    LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

    BB: $17.20

    UTG: $4.10

    MP: $9.90

    Hero (CO): $7.65

    BTN: $8.45

    SB: $3.15

    Pre-Flop: A A dealt to Hero (CO)

    UTG raises to $0.35, MP folds, Hero raises to $0.60, BTN calls $0.60, 2 folds, UTG raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25

    Flop: ($2.70) 3 J T (3 Players)

    UTG bets $3.25 and is All-In, Hero calls $3.25, BTN calls $3.25

    Turn: ($12.45) 9 (3 Players - 1 is All-In)

    Hero bets $3.55 and is All-In, BTN calls $3.55

    River: ($19.55) 8 (3 Players - 2 are All-In)

    Results: $19.55 Pot ($1.95 Rake)

    UTG showed 9 9 (three of a kind, Nines) and LOST (-$4.10 NET)

    Hero showed A A (a flush, Ace high) and WON $17.60 (+$9.95 NET)

    BTN showed 7 K (a flush, King high) and LOST (-$7.65 NET)

    Oh, and yeah...I shouldn't have played short-stacked I didn't wanna bet too much at first 'cause even though the others were lose players, they wouldn't have gone with me if I had overdone it. I had a pretty tight image on that table.

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    Ouch

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      CommentAuthorlefty1427
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2008
     

    id say a 5 9

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    What are the odds of this happening?

    Three times in one day I got pp aces. And each time I made a large raise, I was called only to see the flop not have an ace, but a king. And each time the person that called the large preflop raise went all in. And believe it or not, each time the person had pp kings and wiped me out.

    Was that my unlucky day or not?

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      CommentAuthorMeCrazy
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2008
     

    generally the most profitible flops for AA are when there is no ace....why? Ace is a scare card, if there is an ace that means theres only 1 left, your opponent probably doesnt have it.......now a flop like K 9 5 you may catch someone with KQ or soemthing.... or a J 9 2 flop maybe someone has QQ

    of course the ideal flop is always A + pair and your oppenent has a card matching the pair on the board

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      CommentAuthorst1nker
    • CommentTimeJan 20th 2008
     

    Yeah it all depends on what your opponents have. The best flop is always one that gives your opponent(s) a hand that it slightly below your own hand.

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      CommentAuthorMJW0327
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2008
     

    May I request that this thread be deleted based on how stupid it makes me look. I don't know why I even brought up the subject. I'm an idiot with not enough knowledge to be expressing my opinion in these forums. Please delete it.

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      CommentAuthorrenegades8
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2008
     

    Yeah, but then again it is only just one pair, and every time they catch something better they're probably going to bust you if you can't get away from aces.

    But I guess depending on the situation (number of opponents, type of opponents), then 444 would be a pretty good flop.

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      CommentAuthorrenegades8
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2008
     

    Why, so that everyone can completely miss?

    Does anyone want to take bets on whether they're just spamming to qualify for the Forum Surprise or else IzanPoker simply was getting sick of getting made fun of so he decided to make a new account?

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    Harrington suggests that the dream flop for AA is 444. Sounds about right to me.

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    The best flop= hits you and your opponents (AAK) no good if there is no King, what it comes down to is it is all situational. You want an Ace to hit and your opponent to catch a piece so he rides with you all the way, if your opponent has 89o make it A89!!

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      CommentAuthorrenegades8
    • CommentTimeJan 25th 2008
     

    I don't understand your logic. I don't see why you'd create a situation where you get a bunch of callers from a big raise which doesn't happen all that often. For my opinion, I'm going to change the situation so that it's a raised pot against one or two opponents (most common situation). What kind of hands are really going to pay you off on AT6r? I'd rather see a somewhat draw-heavy board so that I can get paid off a bit, or atleast AKx so that you might extract a bit of chips off of your opponent.

    Without thinking about it too much, I'd have to say AKK with two suits would probably be best, that way someone with Kx (people just can't seem to fold paint) probably isn't getting away from it, and it's likely someone also might have a draw that they'll stick around with.

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      CommentAuthorMJW0327
    • CommentTimeJan 25th 2008
     

    Yeah, you're both right. My logic is a bit fuzzy. Now that I've had a lot more time to think about it you're right. AKK with 2 suits would definitely be the best flop. You're definitely not getting drawn out and you can hook a few fish with it especially one with a K. I guess I just overthought the whole thing.

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      CommentAuthorrenegades8
    • CommentTimeJan 25th 2008
     

    It's extremely unlikely that if there are two kings on board your opponent will hold the other two. If you hold AA and the flop is AKK, it's something like 1081 to 1 that they will be holding KK (note that doesn't take into consideration his range, but these days people play a ton of crap hands, especially online). You can't play that scared in hold'em, you can't always be scared of second-nuts type hands.

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Best flop with Pocket Aces