Fixed Limit Strategy Discussion: FULLTILT and INSTANT CHECK -- IS IT FRAUD? -- VERY QUESTIONABLE ACTIONS

Dell still works with the same E-check processor too. I never claimed that the processing companies were doing anything evil, just that once you get flagged by one of them, it's a pain to get cleared up. Don't bother trying to see it from their side: you know, dealing with high levels of fraud and the lost revenue and fees that fraud incurs.

I don't know you and I don't know your situation. I'm pretty sure you didn't read the ToS since you didn't dispute my last post. If you truly believe that you are being fraudulantly charged a fee, my suggestion to you would be to contact a lawyer and stop wasting your time on this forum.

Cindy, I understand your frustration. I can't speak to everything in your posts, but I can speak to the general situation. I worked in the sales department at Dell for two years. Catalog sales, which cover online and over-the-phone, sales of computers and electronics equipment are some of the highest sources of fraud. Consequently, even a company the size of Dell has to pay huge fees for credit card transactions (2.3% - 3% on profit margins of less than 10%). I don't know what they pay for e-check but I do know that e-checks are much more likely to be flagged for potential fraud.

Online gambling is at a similar risk of fraud. So both industries are extremely vigilant. This not only helps them but their customers as some of it does trickle down to them in terms of reduced costs (or in this case, possibly reduced rakes or increased promotions and giveaways).

Once you are flagged for potential fraud you are no longer dealing with the original company. You are now going to be dealing with the company whose sole job it is to determine if it is real fraud or not. This does take time and they will not clear you until they are certain you should be cleared. Otherwise, they'll go out of business fast when they start clearing people who shouldn't be.

Asking for the SSN is standard practice in the financial industry. By law (in the US) you are not required to give out that information but they can make it even more difficult for you if you do not. I gave up that fight years ago.

Full Tilt's offer of the token so you can buy back into another guarantee seems fair to me so I really don't understand your claim that they don't care. I think it's frustration on your part because this is the first time you've ever gone through something like this. I've actually never gone through it but I have had half a dozen clients who have and it was part of my job to keep them calm. Believe me when I say I understand the frustration. Hopefully it will be cleared up soon and you can get back to playing.

I think the main point of my reply is that what you are going through is not specific to Full Tilt. I haven't used e-checks before, but from my experience, I would recommend using a credit card instead. A lot of people will never have problems with either but I'm just going by the odds, just like when playing poker.

Best of luck to you.

I had the same issue with Nexum, stated that i had no valid funds and FT closed my account took forever to get it back because noone wanted to return emails

Well, it's usually a great way to vent...therapeutic writing.

Anyways, what a great response from cluss and I couldn't say much more except for that I understand also. Just a few months back I went through some troubles with Neteller and a keylogger who got into my account and almost got away with $1,500 of my money (Net ended up eating this cost and crediting my account. Unfortunately the perpatrator got to play with a large sum of money on Net's tab). This same keylogger had tried to gain access to my FTP account but FTP was on it and froze my account immediately and protected my bankroll. FTP also sent me an email explaining this sitaution which I forwarded to Neteller to assist them in their investigation. In the end it all worked out although my patience was put to the test. Best of luck clearing this up. Don't let them tilt ya too much and know that in my experience FTP is on your side.

Beware of instant check- Nexum-

I will never use them again!!

What fraudulent activity are you alleging? Not giving out a mailing address? That may be poor business practice, but it's hardly illegal. Full Tilt offers a variety of ways to fund your account and you'll see that, several months ago, I suggested not using e-check. Electronic check companies are difficult to deal with as a whole. This is not something that is unique to Nexum Financial.

whats a keylogger?like a hacker?

Sorry to hear about your issue, it sucks. Just thought I would recomend epassporte as a deposit method for the future, they charge a small fee but I have never had any problems with deposits and withdrawls and many other sites accept them.