Game #4733825023: Table Goldspur (6 max) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 11:52:20 ET - 2008/01/04
Seat 1: JBNYC ($166)
Seat 2: gomore ($435.60)
Seat 3: nonthinking ($443)
Seat 4: thebot1001 ($194.80)
Seat 5: 2konkok ($45)
Seat 6: JMurda88 ($187.70)
2konkok posts the small blind of $2
JMurda88 posts the big blind of $4
JBNYC: $34 down
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JBNYC [Jc Jh]
JBNYC calls $4
gomore raises to $18
nonthinking folds
thebot1001 folds
JBNYC: getting destroyed
2konkok folds
JMurda88 folds
JBNYC: i am going to raise you gomore
JBNYC has 15 seconds left to act
gomore: its ok
gomore: ;p
JBNYC raises to $50
gomore has 15 seconds left to act
gomore raises to $435.60, and is all in
JBNYC calls $116, and is all in
gomore shows [Qs Kh]
JBNYC shows [Jc Jh]
Uncalled bet of $269.60 returned to gomore
JBNYC: good luck
*** FLOP *** [Jd 9c Th]
*** TURN *** [Jd 9c Th] [5d]
*** RIVER *** [Jd 9c Th 5d] [Ad]
JBNYC: lol
gomore shows a straight, Ace high
JBNYC shows three of a kind, Jacks
gomore wins the pot ($335) with a straight, Ace high
JBNYC: that's gross
JBNYC is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $338 | Rake $3
Board: [Jd 9c Th 5d Ad]
Seat 1: JBNYC showed [Jc Jh] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 2: gomore showed [Qs Kh] and won ($335) with a straight, Ace high
Seat 3: nonthinking didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: thebot1001 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: 2konkok (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: JMurda88 (big blind) folded before the Flop
I meant if the opponent was short stacked with less chips (to a certain degree) than me. I still think calling here is throwing away $160 - with 5 cards to come, anyone holding 2 over cards is going to have a good chance of beating you. Fold and wait.
The amount of times you call an all in for your cash and lose with JJ against someone with a slightly better hand/coin flip I bet is more than the amount of times you will win with it - thats in my experience. I really dont get people that call all ins like this in a cash game unless you have something huge - you can just sit and wait for a hand. If it was a tourney of course I'm calling every time - but in a cash game its not a race.
wow that was actually the best post ive seen on this site.
It's $116 and we're getting 2:1. Even if his range is as tight as KK+ and AK, we should call. And that's a pretty ridiculously tight range. Folding and waiting here is stupid. It's a cash game, not a tournament. And it makes absolutely no difference whether it's us or the opponent who is short.
LOL @ both hands. limp/rr w/ JJ and shoving over the top of a limp/ rr w/ KQ. Both terrible.
Don't forget
talks too much during hands that he's in
Maybe his note says:
Plays outside his bankroll
Subject to
Huge implied tilt-odds
Enjoy his bad beat posts in the forum
JBNYC,
Everything in life is a matter of perspective and I think you are letting your perspective get distorted. The most important element is the one you are overlooking. The most important element is that you are able to sustain this beat and still have money to keep on playing.
Beats like this are going to happen on every level. The question is if it happened on a $10/$20 where the pot would theoretically be 8 times the size of this one would you have been able to sustain the loss better?
peace,
dumwaldo
FYP
KQ is overplayed all the time in ...you only lost a coin flip anyway and he covered you by far. You had a streak going and its only probable that you'll have a losing streak sooner or later.
apparently i only win when i play "outside my bankroll" my man. A guy just called an all in from a $30 raise for $350 with AK against my KK and just hit an Ace on the turn...that's genius. I'd rather play $10/20 than this 2/4 garbage.
He is short stacked. I'm not often folding jacks against only 1 other raiser for only 40 bbs.
I can't remember ever seeing JJ played any worse in a cash game then this hand.
Not sure if we're looking at the same HH but I see a shove, not a call.
When your opponent came back over the top of you, surely that was a sign that you should consider losing $50 and keeping the rest of your cash to fight another day.......yes, you did make the right call, and its a sick beat but your practically on a coin flip. In a cash game if I've been re-re-raised pre flop with Jacks I'm lettign them go - only ever calling if i have a read or they are short stacked.
FYP